of terrorism that you physically endanger another person's life. i mean, you don't have to be bonnie and clyde to be a bank robber, and you don't have to be al qaeda to be a terrorist. >> i don't think these people are terrorists. i think the people and the agencies and the industry that they're fighting are the true terrorists. when you've got big timber companies coming into the northwest, clear-cutting old- growth forest; big oil companies with their big oil spills that cost billions and billions and billions of dollars-- you don't see the fbi raiding these executives' homes or anything like that. they aren't being threatened with life in prison. all they really do is just pay a fine and move on to the next court. >> the old adage that, you know, one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter is true. you know, if you agree with their motives, "wow, they're a hero. they're not a terrorist at all." if you disagree with their motives, then they're a terrorist. that's tough, okay? that's why its a whole lot cleaner to deal with crimes. g,i ood cthris, t n-crimes. okay, im good with that.